Give me a number, any number

When interviewing people as part of an evaluation, at some point I like to put them on the spot.

The interviewees will be well-informed about the program under evaluation. That’s how they were selected. They might be policy makers, managers, program implementers, sector specialists or some other type of what we in the business call “key informants,” or “KIs.” The interviews are semi-structured, with a pre-determined set of questions or topics. That means the answers can be open-ended, in contrast to surveys where most responses need to be kept succinct. The open-ended format allows the interviewer to probe, follow-up or clarify particular points. It’s not so different from how a journalist interviews a subject, or police detective interviews a suspect. It’s a process of discovery as well as a matter of answering straightforward questions about program.

During the interview, as we go through the questions and the respondent shares her assessments and opinions (often in many shades of grey) I’ll press her to take a stand and defend her position. I’ll ask for a number. I want a number that summarizes, say, her subjective assessment of the program.

Sure, I like words. I’m a writer, after all. You can learn a lot from words, but there are just so darn many out there! In its ability to synthesize a story, a number can almost be poetic…

In the middle of a discussion about Program A, I’ll ask something like: “Now, based on everything you know about this energy development project, how would you rate its impact on a scale of 1 to 5, where 1 means you noticed no impact at all and 5 means you noticed a very strong impact?” The key informant will come up with a number, say a “4.” I make a note of it, and then follow up with something like “Please elaborate. Tell me why you rated it a 4?” And the interviewee builds a case, offering more details, providing a rationale.

Sometimes the response you get is a surprise. A key informant will be criticizing a program left and right, but then rate it 4 out of 5. Why the apparent disconnect? Apparently all those criticisms carried less weight for the respondent, in the grand scheme of things, than I had assumed. You see, if I hadn’t asked them to give me a number, I might well have walked away from the interview thinking, “Hmm, he thought that program sucked.” In fact, they thought the program was pretty good, but just had some caveats. You can find the opposite scenario as well, of course. A person speaks positively about a program, then rates it a 3. It could be they just had very high expectations.

These are scale questions, referred to as Likert-type scale survey questions after the psychologist who invented the concept, Rensis Likert. Of course, such rating questions are extremely common in surveys. Who hasn’t responded to an online or in-person interview which didn’t include a scale question? Online sites including Amazon, Netflix, TripAdvisor, and Yelp use a similar approach to get us to rate products or services.

The concept has something in common with the efficient market hypothesis, which states that share prices reflect all current available information. All the negatives, positives, and expectations are priced into that one number. Doctors use a pain scale to gauge a patient’s chronic pain. Therapists will ask their clients to rate their depression using a scale. Similarly, evaluators might use a scale to understand the degree of effectiveness of an intervention, or a number of issues.

Typically, the scale question is used for closed-ended interviews, as part of surveys. Responses can be analyzed and used to obtain an aggregate measure for all the 1,243 respondents, as well as different subgroups. For example, you might be find that, on average female participants rate the program’s ability to improve their lives at 4.3, while male participants rated it 3.8. Done well, this line of inquiry can be a valuable method for taking a population’s pulse on an issue.

The nice feature of open-ended interviews with key informants is that you are able to do a little digging after they’ve coughed up a number. In a survey, if you ask respondents to explain their answers, things can get complicated – those longish answers can’t be easily summarized numerically. (Of course, open-ended answers can be coded according to type, but then you lose a lot of that rich detail along the way.) You don’t face that constraint when conducting qualitative research. You face other constraints instead.

I find that rating questions are a good way of cutting through the dense jungle of information you can be pulled into when doing research. You’re walking along, making your observations of the flora and fauna, taking as much in as you can, using your machete to clear the way, trying to figure out whether you’re heading in the right direction (i.e. testing incoming information against your hypothesis, the path which may or may not lead you to the truth). And then you emerge onto a rocky outcropping…and all at once see the whole rainforest spread out below you. Aha! So that’s how the program looks.

Rather than being a reductive or sterile exercise, I’ve found that people being interviewed rather like this type of questioning. They appear to enjoy the exercise of mentally processing large amounts of information on a subject to generate out a single number. And they like explaining how they got there.

Essentially, this is a way to leverage people’s cognitive functions. You’re engaging them in a kind of meta-cognition exercise, in which they examine and explain their own thought processes.

Try it out on yourself. On a five-point scale, rate your satisfaction with, say the place you live; your own job performance…or how much of your life you spend online. Then justify that number in words. You will most likely find that your brain immediately begins sorting through a whole succession of factors, lining up the pros and cons, weighing them against each other.

It may be that I’ve spent far too much of my life evaluating stuff, but I honestly find this exercise quite revealing, stimulating even, in a cerebral sort of way.

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